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印度哲学家讲鸣响雪松系列图书的重要性

鸣响雪松 图书


1. 前言与背景介绍

在印度举行的“俄罗斯雪松鸣响”系列图书国际读者会议上,弗拉基米尔·梅格雷(Vladimir Megre)会见了参加这一重要活动的参与者。作家通过视频“与印度的弗拉基米尔·梅格雷的对话”讲述了其中的会议。
http://www.vmegre.com/events/37617/

这个故事涉及了与两个印度人的会面,印度人的思想和判断给作家留下了深刻的印象。特别关注了一个名叫Manu Sharma的印度人为这次会议准备的问题。
来自印度人Manu Sharma的一封信,亲爱的弗拉基米尔,这是我昨天想传达的信息:响杉树对我个人的最重要贡献是阿纳斯塔西娅为地球上人类未来创造的形象。这种形象为我带来了极大的欢乐,幸福,和平与安慰。为此,请接受我的真诚和深切的谢意。此外,书籍是巨大的灵感来源,并为研究大量主题做出了贡献。当我遇到其他书籍和材料时,我继续学习,遇到了那些自己的想法支持阿纳斯塔西娅想法的人。
http://www.vmegre.com/events/37646/

译者备注:
经google搜索,弗拉基米尔所说的这个读过很多哲学书籍的印度哲学家,其实原来是一位杰出的气候变化活动家,后读了《鸣响雪松》系列后,花了几年时间从各方面验证书中的内容,开始建立自己的祖传家园。具体可以看文后列出的他的博文网址。

也可以在这里跳转查看,这是Manu Sharma读了鸣响雪松系列后建立祖传家园的经历和记录的中文翻译版:
分享家园意识
https://www.zybuluo.com/zhongdao/note/1656726

2. 原文链接

此文的英文版来自作者的网站:
https://vmegre.com/events/37646/

3. 印度哲学家讲鸣响雪松系列图书的重要性--中英对照翻译

Philosopher from India about the importance of books by Vladimir Megre

During the international conference of readers of books "Ringing Cedars of Russia" series in India in Vladimir Megre, meetings were held with the participants of this important event.
On one of these meetings, the writer told through videorasskaz story V.Megre about his meeting with the Indian philosopher Manu Sharma.
The story touched a meeting with two Indians, who impressed the writer's own thoughts and opinions.
Particular attention was paid to the issue, which has prepared for the meeting, Indian by the name of Manu Sharma.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/AfemeYMYJFA

在印度,弗拉基米尔梅格雷举行的”俄罗斯鸣响的雪松”系列图书读者国际会议期间,与这一重要活动的参与者举行了会议。
在其中一次会议上,作者通过视频讲述了他的故事"Conversations with Vladimir Megre in India" 《在印度与弗拉基米尔 · 梅格雷的对话》
V.Megre 关于他与印度哲学家 Manu Sharma 的会面
这个故事讲述两个印度人,他们给作者留下了深刻的印象
会面特别关注了这个问题,这个问题是为这次会面做准备的,印度人的名字是 Manu Sharma

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Vladimir Megre : I was very pleased with the Indians who came to the meeting. I even then especially with the two of them met. I was very pleased.
One writer, and another ecologist. They presented two books.
And it has long been a reader (one of them), he made a similar design. even wondered if it's not about Anastasia?

They are such an inspiration to speak of Russia, and they are such an inspiration to speak about Anastasia. They do not know the Russian language.
I answered their questions, and then he said: "Now I want to ask you a question, but it is long I have it translated into Russian by an automatic translator, then another corrected I began to read the question, it's there for a few pages.. .
I can see that in fact I was talking to some philosophy with which I have made this conclusion he was there said - "I have read the works of many philosophers" - lists, no.?.
that says: "they have a lot to say what said Anastasia, but specifically mentioned. And Anastasia says more between the lines. "
I said," What do you like more? When exactly is said or if between the lines? "
He says: "Of course, between the lines, because there is room for thinking, and I took it a soul."

弗拉基米尔 · 梅格雷: 我对来参加会议的印度人非常高兴,特别是与他们两个会面, 我非常欢喜,一个是作家,一个是生态学家。 他们展示了两本书

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其中之一是很久前就是读者了,他做了一个类似的封面设计I
我甚至怀疑这是不是关于阿纳丝塔夏的书?

谈到俄罗斯,他们是如此的鼓舞人心,谈到阿纳丝塔夏,他们也是如此的鼓舞人心,他们不懂俄语。
我回答了他们的问题,然后他说: “现在我想问你一个问题,但是时间太长了,我让一个自动翻译机把它翻译成俄语,然后另一个人更正了我开始读这个问题,有几页。 . . 我可以看出,事实上我是在和一些哲学家谈话,我用这些哲学家的话得出了这个结论,他在那里说: “我读过许多哲学家的著作。”。

上面写着: “他们有很多话要说,但特别提到了安娜斯塔西亚。
而阿纳斯塔西娅说的更多是言外之意。”
我说: “你更喜欢什么? ”
到底是什么时候说的,还是字里行间说的? ”
他说: “当然,字里行间,因为有思考的空间,我把它当作灵魂。”

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以下是Manu Sharma写下的信:

4. Manu Sharma的信

Letter to a Hindu Manu Sharma
Dear Vladimir,
That's what I wanted to convey yesterday:
The most significant contribution of the book Ringing Cedars me personally - it's a way that Anastasia has created for the future of humanity on the planet. This image was the source of great joy, happiness, peace and comfort to me. Take again my sincere and deep gratitude for that. In addition, books were a huge source of inspiration and contributed to the study of a large number of topics. I continued to study, when faced with other books and materials, and met people whose own ideas espoused ideas of Anastasia.
I am writing to suggest that there is a new deep view of the world, if we want to understand and agree with Anastasia ideas contained in books 4, co-creation and other volumes.
It seems that scientific understanding is deeply flawed, not only in relation to the history of human development, human origin and creation of the universe, but, more importantly, a scientific understanding of how the universe is very inadequate at the most fundamental level.
Here are the key aspects that I believe that this is not enough:

亲爱的弗拉基米尔:

这就是我昨天想要传达的:
对我个人而言,《鸣响雪松》书最重要的贡献就是——这是阿纳丝塔夏为这个星球上人类的未来所创造的一种方式。这个意象给我带来了巨大的快乐、幸福、安宁和舒适,请再次接受我诚挚而深切的感谢。
此外,书籍是一个巨大的灵感来源,并有助于研究大量的主题,I 当我面对其他书籍和材料时,我继续研究,并且与那些自己的想法支持和证明阿纳丝塔夏思想的人会面。
我写这封信的目的是,如果我们想要理解并同意阿纳丝塔夏在第4卷《共同创作》和其他卷中的观点,就必须对世界有一种新的深刻的看法。
科学的理解似乎存在着严重的缺陷,不仅与人类发展的历史、人类起源和宇宙的创造有关,更重要的是,在最基本的层面上,科学对宇宙如何存在的理解是非常不充分的。

以下是我认为的一部分关键方面:

  1. Knowing that, along with the physical plane, the material universe, which scientists try to understand with the help of the so-called "scientific method" is another analogue - metaphysical plane or region which are thought or the place where the consciousness.
  2. Both the existence of the plan are closely linked.
    There is no way to separate one from another and that they continuously and constantly communicate with each other.
  3. It seems that the metaphysical plane or sphere of thought is manifested in physical reality in the material universe.
  4. Similarly, any change in the physical or material sense to mean a change that has occurred in the metaphysical plane.
  5. Therefore, the metaphysical plan is always the first place. Then, after some delay, should material reality.

(For simplicity, I deliberately leave aspects of the Supreme Creator, and man as the creator.)
If we need to understand and agree with the above five points, there will be quite a radical new image of the Universe, which shows that our present understanding, which takes into account only the material plane, is largely absent. Science has a different theory about what is 'consciousness', but can say with reasonable confidence about the subject. I suggest here that Anastasia has shown that it is consciousness in metaphysical terms, and that this plan is absolutely fundamental to how the universe operates in its material form.

  1. 科学家们试图借助所谓的“科学方法”来理解的物质宇宙,与物质层面一样,是另一个类似——形而上学的层面或区域,是思想或意识存在的地方。
  2. 这两项层面的存在是密切相关的,没有办法把它们彼此分开,它们不断地、不断地相互关联。
  3. 似乎形而上的层面在物质宇宙的物质实相中显现出来。
  4. 同样地,任何物理或物质意义上的改变都意味着在形而上层面上发生的改变。
  5. 因此,形而上的意图总是第一位的,然后,经过一段时间的延迟,显化为物质现实。

(为了简化起见,我故意留下最高造物主,人是造物主的各个方面不谈。)

如果我们需要理解并同意以上五点,那么将会有一个关于宇宙的全新概念,这表明我们目前的仅考虑物质层面的理解是严重不足。
科学对什么是“意识”有不同的理论,但是可以对这个主题有一定的信心。 我在这里建议,阿纳斯塔西娅已经从形而上的角度证明了它是意识,并且它的意图对于宇宙如何以其物质形式运行绝对是其基础。

Let me give you an example: let's say, the world is in the form of a portable computer, and the people are like tiny ants crawling all over it. Some looking at the screen, some crawling on the back side of the cover, the other above the keyboard, and so on. Ants realize that it is a machine, but they do not know how it works. Then some curious scientists ants make a great discovery - they discover that if they go into the vent holes along the side wall of the laptop, there are a world of components.
Hardworking ants scientists have conducted hundreds of years studying the components that are in and for the 21st century they had concluded that improved their understanding of the world. World includes all sorts of interesting components. They call them: the hard disk, processor, motherboard, memory, power supply, optical drive, a variety of ports, LCD, electronics, connecting them all.
Ants researchers correctly identified all of the functions of these components. But here's what: their understanding is limited only by the components - all the equipment that they can see and touch. They have no idea about the invisible elements, to which they can not touch - the source code of the software - which is at the core of the operating system and its various programs. Thus, even if they can see the display and watch as he plays in the movie or see the different alphabets and symbols on the screen, they are unaware of the millions of lines of code that cause it.
No computer can not function without the software. On the other hand, the software itself does not exist without the hardware. Both are necessary for the operation of the computer. Just like a computer is a combination of visible and invisible elements, the world also includes visible and invisible measurements. However, unlike a computer, these measurements much more difficult when the invisible thoughts constantly changing measurement that shows the material plane.

让我举一个例子:假设世界以便携式计算机的形式出现,人们就像小蚂蚁在其上爬行。有些人看着屏幕,有些人爬在盖子的背面,另一只在键盘上方,依此类推。蚂蚁意识到这是一台机器,但是他们不知道它是如何工作的。然后,一些好奇的科学家蚂蚁做出了一个伟大的发现-他们发现,如果它们进入笔记本电脑侧壁上的通风孔,就会有大量的组件。

努力工作的蚂蚁科学家进行了数百年的研究,得出了21世纪以及21世纪的组成部分,他们得出的结论是,人们对世界的了解有所提高。世界包括各种有趣的组成部分。他们称它们为:硬盘,处理器,母板,内存,电源,光盘驱动器,各种端口,LCD,电子设备,并将它们全部连接起来。

蚂蚁研究人员正确地识别了这些组件的所有功能。但这就是事实:他们的理解仅限于组件-他们可以看到和触摸的所有设备。他们不知道他们无法触及的隐式元素-软件的源代码-这是操作系统及其各种程序的核心。因此,即使他们可以看到显示并观看他在电影中播放的画面,也可以看到屏幕上不同的字母和符号,他们也不会意识到引起它的数百万行代码。

没有该软件,任何计算机都无法运行。另一方面,没有硬件就不存在软件本身。两者都是计算机操作所必需的。就像计算机是可见和不可见元素的组合一样,世界也包含可见和不可见的可度量部分。但是,与计算机不同,当看不见的思想不断改变物质层面的可度量时,这些度量要困难得多。

Dear Vladimir, it was my understanding until yesterday, I wanted to tell you, but I could not do it. But I was able to pass your second question - I asked, what are the three dimensions of existence are mentioned in the books, which only a person can experience. You said you did not know, and you pushed me to to learn and maybe write a book about it. You also said that if I find out, I have to tell you about it.

So far, we have only two dimensions - the realm of thought and the physical universe. What could be the third? I never thought that I have the ability to independently find out, and therefore still have not sought the answer to it. Your answer is very encouraged me and quickened my thinking. This morning, the answer came to me. I do not know if the answer is correct, but it is certainly the case. All of this is given in your books by saying Anastasia and quite simple.

You see, the metaphysical dimension or area of thought - this is not a single measurement. At an early stage of the series, in the book of 1 grandfather of Anastasia tells you:
"Only bright rays can travel into space by man on earth. [...] Under the influence of the evil feelings a person can emit only dark rays. These dark rays can not rise but must fall deeper into the Earth. "

Throughout the series there are numerous references to the "intensity" and "the power of darkness." One day, while Anastasia falls ill and the grass beneath it becomes completely white, you get frustrated and call upon the forces of darkness to fight you too. Restoring Anastasia says that you need to know "where to find them," meaning that there are forces of darkness and accumulate in some dimension.

It is clear, therefore, that the two dimensions of thought, in which the pure, good thoughts, thoughts of kindness, gratitude, positive inspiration, love and so on. D. Lay and accumulate. Another dimension - a darkness where dwell the thoughts of anger, anger, hatred, guilt, envy, etc. D. Like Yin and Yang, all the forces that exist in the world, are in conflict with each other, to create a balanced organic whole..

Third, the physical dimension, of course, the materialized reality, the manifestation of these two measurements. In Book 2 many places where Anastasia gives examples of how these two dimensions of thoughts affect physical reality.

When she explains why disasters are repeated over and over again. "Once darkness elements appear in Man, they reach this critical point, [...] impending global disaster."

To learn how to avoid them in the future: "Only by working together will be seen, and then to the invisible eye measurements - field of ideas. You can also call it by measuring the forces of light. The material world in which he lives man, and God. "

As inspired by the actions of Russian truckers: "The catastrophe on a global scale in 1992 was prevented by cottagers."

This land is sensitive to love: "The Earth needs our help. Tenderness and loving attitude give her strength. "

亲爱的弗拉基米尔,直到昨天我才明白,我想告诉你,但我做不到。但是我能够回答您的第二个问题-我问,书中提到存在的三个维度是什么,只有一个人才能体验到。你说你不知道,你建议我研究,也许写一本关于它的书。您还说,如果我发现了,我必须告诉您。

到目前为止,我们只有两个维度-思想领域和物理世界。第三个可能是什么?我从没想过我有能力独立找出答案,因此仍然没有找到答案。您的回答非常鼓励我,也加快了我的思考速度。今天早上,答案就来了。我不知道答案是否正确,但确实是这样。所有这些都在您的书中通过阿纳丝塔夏说出,非常简单。

你看,形而上的维度或思想领域-这不是一个单一的度量。在系列图书的前面第1本里,阿纳斯塔西娅的祖父在书中告诉您:
“只有人类才能将明亮的光线射入太空。在负面情绪的影响下,一个人只能发出黑暗的射线。这些黑暗射线不能升空,而只会坠入地球深处。”

在整个图书系列中,有很多提到“强度”和“黑暗的力量”。有一天,阿纳斯塔西娅(Anastasia)生病并且它下面的草完全变白了,但您感到沮丧,并呼吁黑暗势力也与您作战。恢复中的阿纳斯塔西娅说,您需要知道“在哪里找到它们”,这意味着存在着黑暗的力量,并且在一定方面上积累了力量。

因此,很明显,思想的两个方面,即纯净,善良的思想,感恩,积极正面的鼓舞,爱等等。 道存在其中并进行积累。 另一个方面-黑暗存在于愤怒,仇恨,罪恶,嫉妒等思想中。
道像阴和阳一样,存在世界上的力量相互冲突,以建立平衡的整体。..

第三,物理维度,当然是物质世界,这两个度量的体现。在第二本书中,阿纳斯塔西娅在很多地方都举例说明了这两个维度如何影响物理现实。

当她解释为什么灾难一遍又一遍地重复时。“一旦黑暗元素出现在人类中,它们就会达到这一临界点--即将到来的全球灾难。”

要了解如何避免将来发生这种情况,他说:“只有通过共同努力,在肉眼不可见的领域--这是思想领域。您也可以通过光明力量来称呼它。它也在物质世界中的人与上帝其中。”

受到俄罗斯夏屋小农行动的启发:“ 1992年的全球灾难是由村民阻止的。”

地球对爱很敏感:“地球需要我们的帮助。温柔和爱心的态度赋予了她力量。”

In addition to statements of Anastasia, in some books in the West, there are materials to support two women - Louise Hay and Esther Hicks. Book Louise Hay "You can heal your life" says that all human diseases are manifestations of our thoughts and mental images, vibrations that we send into the universe. The book contains a long list of diseases and their links with the metaphysical causes of each disease. Books have sold over 40 million copies.

Book of Esther Hicks describe the three fundamental laws of the universe and say that man is the creator, and he creates with every thought, he knows or not. If you devote time to concentrate on the pure positive thoughts in just 15 minutes a day, you can show any desired reality, provided that sufficiently detailed thoughts and evoke positive feelings. Esther and her husband Jerry have sold more than 3 million copies of his books.

The teachings of both authors fully synchronized with the statements of Anastasia. Unlike Anastasia, which leaves a lot of information "unsaid", to allow the reader to "read between the lines", perhaps to accelerate their thoughts, writings, Esther Hick particularly detailed and describe everything very clearly.

I humbly believe that the ideas of Anastasia extends far beyond the narrow science, and so there is no need for a scientific validation / approval / certificate ideas Anastasia, because science itself is severely limited. No scientific explanation of its ideas may not be sufficient due to the inherent limitations.

In fact, from the outside it does not need any explanation. As she spoke, every one of us are given all the answers from the outset. Let's take the idea on their own merits

Best Regards
Manu Sharma

除了阿纳斯塔西娅的陈述外,在西方的一些书中,还有两个女人-路易丝·海(Louise Hay)和埃丝特·希克斯(Esther Hicks)的资料也支持这个观点。 路易丝·海伊(Louise Hay)的书《你可以治愈自己的生命》(You can heal your life)(中文版:生命的重建)说,所有人类疾病都是我们思想和心理形象的体现,也是我们传递到宇宙中的振动。这本书包含一长串疾病,以及它们与每种疾病的形而上学原因的联系。书籍已售出超过4000万册。

以斯帖·希克斯(Esther Hicks)书描述了宇宙的三个基本定律,并说人是创造者,他用各种思想创造,无论他是否知道。如果您每天只花15分钟的时间将精力集中在纯粹的积极思想上,您就可以展示任何想要的现实,前提是要有足够详尽的思想并唤起积极的情感。以斯帖和她的丈夫杰里已经卖出了超过300万本的书。

两位作者的教导与阿纳斯塔西娅的表述完全同步。与阿纳斯塔西娅(Anastasia)留下大量“未说”的信息不同,他们以允许读者阅读“在字里行间”的内容,也许是为了加快他们的思想。埃斯特·希克(Esther Hick)的书特别详细,并非常清楚地描述了每一个细节。

我保守地相信,阿纳斯塔西娅的思想远远超出了狭隘的科学范畴,因为科学本身及其有限,因此不需要科学的证明/验证阿纳丝塔夏的思想。由于科学其固有的局限性,用科学对其思想进行解释可能是不充分的。

实际上,从外在不需要任何解释。正如她所说的那样,我们每个人从一开始就得到了所有答案。让我们根据自己的方式来吸收其思想。

最好的祝福
Manu Sharma

5. 信的附加说明


Dear Darja Jankova,

Thank The you for your assistance in facilitating Our conversation with Mr. Vladimir Megre today. I thank him once again for the generous time and enthusiastic praise he showered on me for the write-up.

Please thank him also for the kind invitation he extended to visit Russia, planning of the visit and staying as guest at family homestead settlements. I can not thank him enough. This means a lot.

I include below the write-up I shared with him at Riva resort restaurant.

Please tell him that this is only a very raw, unfinished first-draft of my thoughts. I do wish to pursue it into a book or journal piece as suggested by Vladimir but that will take time. Now! Just for, please Feel free to this content share on the IT and the website of Circulate for Among OTHER Russian-language community with the the following Understanding:

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These are raw initial thoughts that are incomplete at the moment but are being shared for the purpose of seeking feedback from those who have followed the ideas contained in Ringing Cedars books.

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尊敬的Darja Jankova,

感谢您的协助,以促进我们今天与弗拉基米尔·梅格雷先生的对话。我再次感谢他慷慨的时间和他对我的写作表示赞赏的热情赞美。

也请感谢他友好的邀请我访问俄罗斯,计划访问和以客人身份住在祖传家园聚落。太感谢他了。这意味着很多。

我将在里瓦(Riva)度假餐厅与他分享的文章包括在下面。

请告诉他,这只是我思想的一个很原始的未完成的初稿。我确实希望按照弗拉基米尔(Vladimir)的建议将其研究成书或期刊,但这需要时间。现在!出于以下目的,请随意在IT和Circulate for Other Russian语言社区的网站上共享此内容:

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6. 英文原文:Philosopher from India about the importance of books by Vladimir Megre

Philosopher from India about the importance of books by Vladimir Megre 04/07/2017 18:26:45
During the international conference of readers of books "Ringing Cedars of Russia" series in India in Vladimir Megre, meetings were held with the participants of this important event. On one of these meetings, the writer told through videorasskaz "Conversations with Vladimir Megre in India"

story V.Megre about his meeting with the Indian philosopher Manu Sharma.

The story touched a meeting with two Indians, who impressed the writer's own thoughts and opinions. Particular attention was paid to the issue, which has prepared for the meeting, Indian by the name of Manu Sharma.

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Vladimir Megre : I was very pleased with the Indians who came to the meeting. I even then especially with the two of them met. I was very pleased. One writer, and another ecologist. They presented two books.

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And it has long been a reader (one of them), he made a similar design. I even wondered if it's not about Anastasia?

They are such an inspiration to speak of Russia, and they are such an inspiration to speak about Anastasia. They do not know the Russian language. I answered their questions, and then he said: "Now I want to ask you a question, but it is long I have it translated into Russian by an automatic translator, then another corrected I began to read the question, it's there for a few pages.. . I can see that in fact I was talking to some philosophy with which I have made this conclusion he was there said - "I have read the works of many philosophers" - lists, no.?.

that says: "they have a lot to say what said Anastasia, but specifically mentioned. And Anastasia says more between the lines. "
I said," What do you like more? When exactly is said or if between the lines? "
He says: "Of course, between the lines, because there is room for thinking, and I took it a soul."

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Letter to a Hindu Manu Sharma

Dear Vladimir,

That's what I wanted to convey yesterday:
The most significant contribution of the book Ringing Cedars me personally - it's a way that Anastasia has created for the future of humanity on the planet. This image was the source of great joy, happiness, peace and comfort to me. Take again my sincere and deep gratitude for that. In addition, books were a huge source of inspiration and contributed to the study of a large number of topics. I continued to study, when faced with other books and materials, and met people whose own ideas espoused ideas of Anastasia.

I am writing to suggest that there is a new deep view of the world, if we want to understand and agree with Anastasia ideas contained in books 4, co-creation and other volumes.

It seems that scientific understanding is deeply flawed, not only in relation to the history of human development, human origin and creation of the universe, but, more importantly, a scientific understanding of how the universe is very inadequate at the most fundamental level.

Here are the key aspects that I believe that this is not enough:

  1. Knowing that, along with the physical plane, the material universe, which scientists try to understand with the help of the so-called "scientific method" is another analogue - metaphysical plane or region which are thought or the place where the consciousness.

  2. Both the existence of the plan are closely linked. There is no way to separate one from another and that they continuously and constantly communicate with each other.

  3. It seems that the metaphysical plane or sphere of thought is manifested in physical reality in the material universe.

  4. Similarly, any change in the physical or material sense to mean a change that has occurred in the metaphysical plane.

  5. Therefore, the metaphysical plan is always the first place. Then, after some delay, should material reality.

(For simplicity, I deliberately leave aspects of the Supreme Creator, and man as the creator.)

If we need to understand and agree with the above five points, there will be quite a radical new image of the Universe, which shows that our present understanding, which takes into account only the material plane, is largely absent. Science has a different theory about what is 'consciousness', but can say with reasonable confidence about the subject. I suggest here that Anastasia has shown that it is consciousness in metaphysical terms, and that this plan is absolutely fundamental to how the universe operates in its material form.

Let me give you an example: let's say, the world is in the form of a portable computer, and the people are like tiny ants crawling all over it. Some looking at the screen, some crawling on the back side of the cover, the other above the keyboard, and so on. Ants realize that it is a machine, but they do not know how it works. Then some curious scientists ants make a great discovery - they discover that if they go into the vent holes along the side wall of the laptop, there are a world of components.

Hardworking ants scientists have conducted hundreds of years studying the components that are in and for the 21st century they had concluded that improved their understanding of the world. World includes all sorts of interesting components. They call them: the hard disk, processor, motherboard, memory, power supply, optical drive, a variety of ports, LCD, electronics, connecting them all.

Ants researchers correctly identified all of the functions of these components. But here's what: their understanding is limited only by the components - all the equipment that they can see and touch. They have no idea about the invisible elements, to which they can not touch - the source code of the software - which is at the core of the operating system and its various programs. Thus, even if they can see the display and watch as he plays in the movie or see the different alphabets and symbols on the screen, they are unaware of the millions of lines of code that cause it.

No computer can not function without the software. On the other hand, the software itself does not exist without the hardware. Both are necessary for the operation of the computer. Just like a computer is a combination of visible and invisible elements, the world also includes visible and invisible measurements. However, unlike a computer, these measurements much more difficult when the invisible thoughts constantly changing measurement that shows the material plane.

Dear Vladimir, it was my understanding until yesterday, I wanted to tell you, but I could not do it. But I was able to pass your second question - I asked, what are the three dimensions of existence are mentioned in the books, which only a person can experience. You said you did not know, and you pushed me to to learn and maybe write a book about it. You also said that if I find out, I have to tell you about it.

So far, we have only two dimensions - the realm of thought and the physical universe. What could be the third? I never thought that I have the ability to independently find out, and therefore still have not sought the answer to it. Your answer is very encouraged me and quickened my thinking. This morning, the answer came to me. I do not know if the answer is correct, but it is certainly the case. All of this is given in your books by saying Anastasia and quite simple.

You see, the metaphysical dimension or area of thought - this is not a single measurement. At an early stage of the series, in the book of 1 grandfather of Anastasia tells you:
"Only bright rays can travel into space by man on earth. [...] Under the influence of the evil feelings a person can emit only dark rays. These dark rays can not rise but must fall deeper into the Earth. "

Throughout the series there are numerous references to the "intensity" and "the power of darkness." One day, while Anastasia falls ill and the grass beneath it becomes completely white, you get frustrated and call upon the forces of darkness to fight you too. Restoring Anastasia says that you need to know "where to find them," meaning that there are forces of darkness and accumulate in some dimension.

It is clear, therefore, that the two dimensions of thought, in which the pure, good thoughts, thoughts of kindness, gratitude, positive inspiration, love and so on. D. Lay and accumulate. Another dimension - a darkness where dwell the thoughts of anger, anger, hatred, guilt, envy, etc. D. Like Yin and Yang, all the forces that exist in the world, are in conflict with each other, to create a balanced organic whole..

Third, the physical dimension, of course, the materialized reality, the manifestation of these two measurements. In Book 2 many places where Anastasia gives examples of how these two dimensions of thoughts affect physical reality.

When she explains why disasters are repeated over and over again. "Once darkness elements appear in Man, they reach this critical point, [...] impending global disaster."

To learn how to avoid them in the future: "Only by working together will be seen, and then to the invisible eye measurements - field of ideas. You can also call it by measuring the forces of light. The material world in which he lives man, and God. "

As inspired by the actions of Russian truckers: "The catastrophe on a global scale in 1992 was prevented by cottagers."

This land is sensitive to love: "The Earth needs our help. Tenderness and loving attitude give her strength. "

In addition to statements of Anastasia, in some books in the West, there are materials to support two women - Louise Hay and Esther Hicks. Book Louise Hay "You can heal your life" says that all human diseases are manifestations of our thoughts and mental images, vibrations that we send into the universe. The book contains a long list of diseases and their links with the metaphysical causes of each disease. Books have sold over 40 million copies.

Book of Esther Hicks describe the three fundamental laws of the universe and say that man is the creator, and he creates with every thought, he knows or not. If you devote time to concentrate on the pure positive thoughts in just 15 minutes a day, you can show any desired reality, provided that sufficiently detailed thoughts and evoke positive feelings. Esther and her husband Jerry have sold more than 3 million copies of his books.

The teachings of both authors fully synchronized with the statements of Anastasia. Unlike Anastasia, which leaves a lot of information "unsaid", to allow the reader to "read between the lines", perhaps to accelerate their thoughts, writings, Esther Hick particularly detailed and describe everything very clearly.

I humbly believe that the ideas of Anastasia extends far beyond the narrow science, and so there is no need for a scientific validation / approval / certificate ideas Anastasia, because science itself is severely limited. No scientific explanation of its ideas may not be sufficient due to the inherent limitations.

In fact, from the outside it does not need any explanation. As she spoke, every one of us are given all the answers from the outset. Let's take the idea on their own merits

Best Regards
Manu Sharma


Dear Darja Jankova,

Thank The you for your assistance in facilitating Our conversation with Mr. Vladimir Megre today. I thank him once again for the generous time and enthusiastic praise he showered on me for the write-up.

Please thank him also for the kind invitation he extended to visit Russia, planning of the visit and staying as guest at family homestead settlements. I can not thank him enough. This means a lot.

I include below the write-up I shared with him at Riva resort restaurant.

Please tell him that this is only a very raw, unfinished first-draft of my thoughts. I do wish to pursue it into a book or journal piece as suggested by Vladimir but that will take time. Now! Just for, please Feel free to this content share on the IT and the website of Circulate for Among OTHER Russian-language community with the the following Understanding:

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With warm regards,
by Manu Sharma

Translation
Dear Daria Yankov,

thank you for your assistance in our conversation with Mr. Vladimir Megre. Once again, I thank him for his generous time and enthusiasm, which he praised for my review.

Please also thank him for the kind invitation, which he proposed to visit in Russia, planning to visit and staying guest in the settlement of patrimonial estates. I can not thank him enough. It means a lot.

I have included below a review, which I shared with him in the Riva resort's restaurant.

Please tell him that this is only a very crude, unfinished first draft of my thoughts. I would like to pursue it in a book or magazine, as suggested by Vladimir, but it will take time. At this point, please do not hesitate to share them on the site and spread to other Russian-speaking community with the following understanding:

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Best Regards
Manu Sharma

7. 书中光明与黑暗射线的部分内容

「当一个人处于爱的状态,就会产生明亮的射线。这些射线会在短短一瞬之间,被这个人上空的星体反射回来,回到地球,为一切带来生命。
「太阳就是这样的星体之一。不过它反射的只是这种射线的一小部分,并非完整的光谱。
「人散发的射线中,只有明亮的射线可以发射到宇宙,也只有有益的射线可以从宇宙反射回到地球。
「人被负面的情绪影响,产生的射线就是黑暗的。黑暗的射线无法升空,只会坠入地球内部深处,碰到地心之后反弹,以火山爆发、地震、战争等形式回到地表。
「黑暗射线反弹回来导致的后果,以作用在人身上的效应-直接加深这个人的负面情绪-最为极致。

「神不会处罚任何人,衪也不需要灾难。神是爱,但这是从一开始就设定好的,创造好的。当人无法接受真理到达某一定的程度,当人内在的黑暗扩展到极点,这时为了避免全面性的自我毁灭,就会产生全球大灾难,使许多人丧生,将致命的人工维生设施摧毁殆尽。大灾难是给幸存者上的宝贵一课。灾难后,人类有段时期会像活在可怕的炼狱,然而这是他们自己创造出来的结果。幸存者陷入了地狱,之后他们的后代有段时期将仿佛活在人类起源那般,到达一个足以被称为天堂的极点,接着又重蹈覆辙,全部重来一遍。以地球时间来算,已来回反复了几十亿年。」
「如果事情就是这么无可避免地重复了几十亿年,你想要求什么?」

「当这一小部分联合在一起,一心向往光明,对黑暗力量来说,就变得难以对付与封锁。不过,只要有一个人自己的一小部分完全与神取得联系,黑暗力量就不可能赢得过他,不可能击败他的灵与智慧。」

8. 书中原文与三相关的部分内容

在你描绘的计划中,有任何地方是爱的空间吗?”
“有的。”
“在哪里?”
“在所有的地方。爱的空间会为伴侣两人而生,接着为他们的孩子而生。孩子会透过三个存在层面,与整个宇宙建立起连结。”
[book4]

“技术治理的世界试图不让孩子的三个要素合而为一,它设法破坏人类与神圣智慧的连结线,让这条线在孩子出生前就断了。为了寻找这个连结,人类后来得痛苦地走遍世界,却仍遍寻不着。”

“弗拉迪米尔,人在来到这个世界之前,许多方面都已经成形了。孩子的抚养过程必须与宇宙万物有所接触。神用了什么创造它的美好作品,它的儿子不应该视而不见。父母必须把三个要素——三个首要的存在层面——呈现给自己的创造。
首先是人类出生的第一个要素,称为‘父母的思想’。圣经和可兰经都有讲到这点:‘太初有道’,不过可以讲得更精准一点,那就是‘太初有思想’。现代身为父母的人,都要记得他们是什么时候在思想中想像自己的孩子,以及把孩子想像成什么样子?为孩子设想了什么未来?为自己的创造打造了什么样的世界?”
“阿纳丝塔夏,我认为大部分的人,在女人怀孕之前都不会想到这些,两人就直接睡在一起。有些人也没结婚,等到女朋友怀孕后才结婚,因为根本不知道她竟然会怀孕。所以提早想这些事情是没有意义的,因为根本不清楚对方会不会生小孩。”
“遗憾的是,事情还真的是这样,大部分的人都是在肉体欢愉后而怀孕的。然而,人类——神的模样和形象——不应该是以欢愉后的产物来到这个世上。
现在试想另一种情况,男女在对彼此的爱中,在对未来的创造的思想中,打造一座有生命的美好家园。他们想像自己的儿子或女儿在这个地方会有多快乐,孩子会如何听到神的创造的第一个声音——母亲的呼吸声和鸟儿的歌声。他们接着想像长大成人的孩子在辛苦的旅程后,会如何走进父母打造的花园,坐在雪松树荫下休息,在这棵父母出于对他的爱及想着他时,在家乡土地上亲手种下的树木下。未来父母种下的家族树会决定第一个要素,进而号召众多星球对未来的创造伸出援手。这个要素是必须的!很重要!尤其是这个要素是神与生俱来的!这会确定你之后创造的会与神类似!与它类似,伟大的造物者!它将因为自己子女的意识而感到开心。‘太初有思想’,请相信我,弗拉迪米尔,当两人的思想在爱中结合时,当两人思考着美好的创造时,宇宙所有的能量都将汇聚在一起。
第二个要素,或说是另一个人类层面,是两个身体在以下条件中合二为一时诞生的:在爱中、在美好创造的思想中、在为未来的孩子打造天堂乐园的地方,亦即有生命的家园中。这个要素的诞生,会在天空中点亮一颗新的星星。
怀孕的妻子接着应该在那个地方生活九个月,这几个月最好是在盛开的春季、芬芳的夏季,
以及结果的秋季。除了快乐、愉悦的感受外,不会有其他事情使她分神。体内有着美好创造的她,身边只有神圣创造的声音。她在这里生活,亲身感受整个宇宙。这位未来的母亲必须看得到星星,然后用思想把所有星星和星球送给自己美丽的孩子。母亲可以很轻松就做到这一切,全部都在她的能力范围之内。万物会毫不迟疑地跟随母亲的思想,宇宙更会成为忠实的仆人,服侍两人在爱中的美好创造。
第三个要素——新兴的层面——会在同一个地方产生。母亲要在受孕的地方产下孩子,而且父亲要在她的身旁,关爱万物的伟大天父会为他们三人高举桂冠。”

「尽管如此,阿纳丝塔夏仍然说出现代科学无法解释的神秘现象:父母必须把三个要素——三个首要的存在层面——呈现给自己的创造。
「接着她说,如果要让三个神秘的存在层面在一处合而为一,也就是在祖传家园,必须符合以下条件:两人的思想在爱中结合……第一个要素,称为『父母的思想』……第二个要素,或说是另一个人类层面,是两个身体合而为一时诞生的。这个要素的诞生,

会在天空中点亮一颗新的星星……第三个要素——新兴的层面——会在同一个地方产生。母亲要在受孕的地方产下孩子,而且父亲要在她的身旁,关爱万物的伟大天父会为他们三人高举桂冠。

阿纳丝塔夏的理论,人的生日应从三个要素合而为一的时刻算起,且其自有毋庸置疑的逻辑,只是我们现代的科学和宗教教理连提都不敢提。」

吠陀时代相爱的人都知道,爱的火花出现时,就是在召唤神圣的共同创造。这并不是透过理智了解,而是籍由内心和灵魂体会。
你要注意相爱的人最初的渴望。他们一起在瞬间的灵感中,为两人的爱想出空间的规划。妻子就在他们创造的空间中受孕,三个爱的感觉永远合而为一。毕竟,人终其一生对自己的家园——家乡、自己的孩子,以及一起创造一切的女人,都有一种自己也无法解释的爱。唯有三个爱的感觉才能永恒长存,一个是不够的。

「是神决定了人类的使命和宇宙万物的发展。为了了解祂的构想,而不是破坏,必须探索、确认地球万物的意义。」
永生
「神创造的人是永生的,想要体会这点,只要三个条件即可。
「第一创造有生命的空间,这个空间会吸引人类,人类也向往这样的空间。
「第二地球上至少要有一个人带着善意与爱想着你。
「第三千万别让自己有难免一死的想法,这点非常重要。甚至如果你告诉一个只是睡着的人他会死,而他也相信的话,他就会照自己的想法死去。相反地,符合地球定义的『老人』在耗尽体力、躺在死亡门前时,如果他不去想死亡,而是想象他在亲手创造有生命的空间生活,那么日后他就会重生。这是宇宙的法则,宇宙不会袖手旁观,让创造生命的思想逝去。
「你们有一个概念叫做『天择』,上天至今仍在选择最好的赋予重生的机会。以前的选择不多,不过现在多了好几倍。带着爱建造家园的人都能不断地重生。
「任何阻挠他们的东西都会从地球上永远消失,让位给即将诞生的新文明。」

不过有个但是,光从表面是不可能理解或重现自然信仰的仪式的,特别是吠陀罗斯的仪式,必须用感觉去体悟。
光写出来有什么用?我们必须去愛、为孩子的诞生做好准备,而且一定要在家中生产,也就是当初受孕的地方。
光写出「想为家庭永远保存愛,必须将三个要点、三种感觉、三个存在层面合而为一」有什么用?光靠头脑理解是不够的,必须用感觉去体会,去感觉先人的哲理。
首先要做的莫过于对我们先人的诚心忏悔,被现代人称为自然信仰者的他们一直遭到抹黑、被我们背叛。我们背叛了父辈和母辈的传统斯拉夫文化——一个存在几万年的文化。

「弗拉狄米尔,小孩不一定会像第一位伴侣,如果女性的新经历和感官感受够强烈,过往失败关系的讯息都可以抹除。不过吠陀罗斯还是有仪式可以抹除你不想要的过往讯息。这个仪式可以净化男女双方,但要有三个想法参与其中。不过是谁的想法,你可以猜猜看。」
「你还是直接告诉我吧,阿纳丝塔夏,我的脑袋今天吸收太多资讯了。」
「好,我告诉你,但每个人都要学着自己做出所需的结论,这点很重要。」
「早晚学得会的,但现在还是由你解释吧,毕竟这个问题很重要。」
「那你先就你感兴趣的部分提出完整的问题。」
「什么才叫『完整』?」
「弗拉狄米尔,毕竟你也知道这个现象不只影响女性,对男性也有同等的影响,男性的婚前关系也会影响未来的孩子。只要丈夫不是处男,忠贞的处女也可能生出不是自己的小孩。你知道这点吧,弗拉狄米尔?」
「是,阿纳丝塔夏,我还真的知道。我读过曾有一位退伍军人返乡时,在火车站喝得烂醉,还与一名亚洲妓女上床。他回到家乡时,娶了一直等着他的女孩,生下的小孩却有黝黑的皮肤和丹凤眼,大家开始责怪那个女孩,可是村庄附近根本没有任何亚洲人,我原本还以为男性在这之中没有关系。」
「当然有关,他们在仪式中必须扮演重要的角色。
「仪式是这样进行的:男性必须在两人居住的地方把床铺在星空下,在大自然中为自己和女性铺床去。他们必须禁食三天,睡在星空下三个晚上。每天睡前,男性必须用泉水替女性和自己沐浴,再用亚麻布擦干女性的身体,但不能擦干自己,只能用手将水滴抹掉。男性要湿答答地与女性躺在床上睡觉,这三天内不能发生亲密关系。
「在星空下睡觉的第一晚应该原谅彼此的过往,且从第一晚就要开始想像未来的孩子。
「男性应想着孩子要多像母亲,女性则想着孩子要多像父亲。
「三天后,他们就能发生肉体关系,众多星球会替他们抹除过去的资讯、未受孕孩子的资讯。
「但在发生亲密关系前,男性必须为女性带上头冠。在吠陀罗斯的婚礼中,都是由女性为愛人带上头冠,但这个仪式则是相反。
「这种仪式不是只有已经一起找到家园并住在里面的夫妻才能举行。」
「为什么?」
「光是这三天一直想着未来孩子但没有受孕,尽管还在寻找家园和规划中,他们也能得到净化。」
「阿纳丝塔夏,第三个想法是什么?你刚说必须同时有三个想法。」
「是的,我说过,确实要有三个想法。到了第三天晚上,男女双方在星空下睡觉时,他们未来的孩子已经在用自己的想法帮助他们了。」
「孩子在哪里?」
「所有孩子受孕前等待转世的地方。
「由一位伟大智者想出来并献给人类的整套仪式就是如此,他很高兴看到这个仪式多么地有成效,促成了越来越多幸福的家庭。

9. 印度哲学家的个人信息

Manu Sharma分享家园意识(英文)
http://blog.orangehues.com/2019/04/sharing-garden-spirit.html

分享家园意识(Manu Sharma的家园分享中文翻译)
https://www.zybuluo.com/zhongdao/note/1656726

印度与弗拉迪米尔会面会议的新闻
https://www.ecologise.in/event/meeting-vladimir-megre/

专题:鸣响雪松系列和俄罗斯新的无声革命
https://www.ecologise.in/2016/04/10/special-a-new-silent-revolution-in-russia/

Manu Sharma的博客
http://blog.orangehues.com/
Manu Sharma是印度气候变化活动家和可再生能源专家,他被作者称为哲学家。

以下内容是他的博客上的个人介绍:
自2006年中以来,我一直在努力应对气候变化及其对我们的意义。作为一名激进主义者和活动家,我试图学习并同时尝试影响其周围的问题-在技术和政策倡导方面。作为顾问,我研究了市场并在可持续性服务和可再生能源投资中创建了投资组合。

经过数千小时的研究,顽强的激进主义者与非政府组织以及整个行业密切合作,进行了大约二十次公开演讲,无数次会议,数百次在线讨论以及一些媒体露面(包括路透社,新闻电视台和BBC)无线电),以及我对应做的事情的想法的不断发展-我可能已经找到了一些答案,但是这个问题仍未得到解决。

在充满着绝望的气候变化世界中,我唯一真正找到持久希望的地方是在弗拉基米尔·麦格雷(Vladimir Megre)的《俄罗斯鸣响雪松》一书系列的启发下实现的美好愿景。这些书在俄罗斯引发了转型运动,并深刻地影响了我。我正在努力实现这一愿景。

我创立并运行了RTI的RTI运动“气候革命倡议”现已退休。我不再发表演讲了。我仍然认为自己是激进主义者,偶尔在九年前就开​​始在Green-India小组发帖。

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